• Speldhurst Parish Council Whiteboxes - GoogleMap

    The real truth - what we get today!

    The map below presents the monthly average of DOWNSTREAM and UPSTREAM speeds for all of the Sam Knows whiteboxes operating within Speldhurst parish.

    If your dot is coloured red, and is in amongst a bunch of green folk, you could ask them what they're doing to get the faster speeds! Only if you want to go faster of course.

    By hovering over and clicking a dot/property, you can discover the downstream and upstream speeds and the whitebox "MAC address" (a unique number which is visible on the underside of your whitebox). Using that number you can then join the forum and ask others ,"Hey, who's got MAC address 0A0C234F532C? You're getting twice my speed - which ISP are you using and what are you feeding your modem?", or similar banter. It's also a way of identifying your own Whitebox, to see that it is being represented on our map! A "MAC address" is just .

    This map isn't automatically updated (yet), but does give an indication of where we're going. With more whiteboxes we'd start to get a feel for the rural areas and just how poor their speeds are ... come on folks ... anyone living in a field want a whitebox to let the community know just how bad the current broadband service is?

    Current GoogleMap (March 2014 average DOWNLOAD speeds)
    RED = less than 8 Mbps
    YELLOW = between 8 and 16 Mbps
    GREEN = More than 16 Mbps



    Current GoogleMap (March 2014 average UPLOAD speeds)
    RED = less than 8 Mbps
    YELLOW = between 8 and 16 Mbps
    GREEN = More than 16 Mbps



    Here are some links to the B4RS GoogleMap showing download averages for each month on previous dates:

    B4RS GoogleMap on August 7th, 2012
    B4RS GoogleMap on September 7th, 2012
    B4RS GoogleMap on October 7th, 2012
    B4RS GoogleMap on November 7th, 2012
    B4RS GoogleMap on December 7th, 2012

    The speeds above, until December 2012 are 7 day averages. The speeds below from January 2013 are monthly averages. To save you the bother of clicking on ANY of the upload links, nobody has greater than 1.2Mbps upload speeds, so all the dots are red

    B4RS GoogleMap on January 31st, 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on February 28th 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on March 31st 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on April 30th 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on May 31st 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on June 30th 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on July 31st 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on August 31st 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on September 30th 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on October 31st 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on November 30th 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on December 31st 2013 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on January 31st 2014 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on February 28th 2014 (download, upload)
    B4RS GoogleMap on March 31st 2014 (download, upload)

    Comments and suggestions always welcome via the Forum - it takes just a second to join!

    Brought to you by B4RS and Speldhurst Parish Council

    B4RS operates and updates the Whitebox data for Speldhurst Parish Council who have funded 60 whiteboxes for the project - an immense thanks to Speldhurst Parish Council for helping to provide facts about rural broadband performance, which are so very, very hard to find when public grant money is on the table. The B4RS folk are all volunteers, and we're always looking for more help so if you'd like to get involved and "dig-to-a-gig", please do signup to the forum and get in touch. We don't bite - we dig, we plan and we budget ... all the way to 1000 Mbps, no nonsense or small print or "up to".

    Enjoy,
    --RobL.
    Comments 14 Comments
    1. stonewall100's Avatar
      stonewall100 -
      Hi Rob,
      This has some interesting inconsistencies in terms of speed in relation to distance - my result v Miles' result is an example. There must be an ISP factor as well, and perhaps other factors. I see that SJ is getting a reasonably good speed from FTTC bearing in mind the distance from the cabinet (if it is the one on the common and presuming the cable follows the line of the road.)
      L
    1. stonewall100's Avatar
      stonewall100 -
      Rob,
      I would be happy to sit down with you some time to look at the inconsistencies and see what we are really learning. We have cases of people living close to each other but with very different speeds. There is someone at the bottom of Ashurst Hill with 4.34 but others in Ashurst with far worse. Even Julia's is worse.
      L
    1. knowle's Avatar
      knowle -
      Lawrence, Rob

      There have been some changes going on with my line in the last couple of weeks. It has been dropping out for several minutes on a regular basis. When its UP I now have a download speed of around 18mbps which is a vast improvement on the 7mbps which I continued to get even after being upgraded to ADSL2+ back in the summer.

      Miles
    1. stonewall100's Avatar
      stonewall100 -
      Hi Miles,
      I am really pleased top hear you are now getting similar to me (since we are about the same distance from the Exchange). The line-dropping sounds like an issue for calling PlusNet about.
      Lawrence
    1. knowle's Avatar
      knowle -
      Hi Lawrence
      According to PlusNet my drop outs were due to my line being noisy. They have changed my line setup to use interleaving, which essentially breaks transmitted data into smaller chunks and improves error correction. It seems to work, the line is now stable but there's an overhead which reduces the speed a bit.
      www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/interleaving.htm
      Miles
    1. stonewall100's Avatar
      stonewall100 -
      Hi Miles,
      That's good news. I am interested to know what your speed settles down to.
      Lawrence
    1. RobL's Avatar
      RobL -
      Quote Originally Posted by stonewall100 View Post
      Rob,
      I would be happy to sit down with you some time to look at the inconsistencies and see what we are really learning. We have cases of people living close to each other but with very different speeds. There is someone at the bottom of Ashurst Hill with 4.34 but others in Ashurst with far worse. Even Julia's is worse.
      L
      L,
      We can draw whatever conclusion we like, based on our available knowledge. What we have available to us via the whiteboxes are reliable facts to have the discussion. It is entirely feasible for two neighbours to have wildly differing speeds reported due to the involvement of copper and moisture in the local loop. It wouldn't be a good use of our time to look into these anomalies. They are a consequence of the technology used to deliver broadband today - ADSL, and if FTTC arrives, VDSL. Both suffer the same ill effects from having copper to the customer. A few anomalies may be due to the hardware or modem in use, but they would represent the exception and with sufficient numbers would become irrelevant in the whitebox statistics.

      It's great to discuss with neighbours if you think you're getting the sharp end of the stick, or ask others on the forum what they think. The power is in having the facts to begin the conversation!

      Thanks,
      --RobL.
    1. Paul W's Avatar
      Paul W -
      Any Guru's out there?
      I have been delighted with my BT Broadband speed since the Langton Exchange up-grade (around 19MB recorded on my White Box). Great for BBC iPlayer etc. However over the last couple of days I appear to be getting buffering when I play internet radio (use Sonos). It is spasmodic. Can't identify any buffering with iPlayer. Playing iTunes round the house no problem. Just seems to be specific to internet radio. Any ideas as to what is going on?
      Thanks
      ~Paul W
    1. RobL's Avatar
      RobL -
      Quote Originally Posted by Paul W View Post
      Any Guru's out there?
      I have been delighted with my BT Broadband speed since the Langton Exchange up-grade (around 19MB recorded on my White Box). Great for BBC iPlayer etc. However over the last couple of days I appear to be getting buffering when I play internet radio (use Sonos). It is spasmodic. Can't identify any buffering with iPlayer. Playing iTunes round the house no problem. Just seems to be specific to internet radio. Any ideas as to what is going on?
      Thanks
      ~Paul W
      Paul - buffering is dependent on many variables, and misconfigured on nearly all ADSL modems used by the ISPs providing today's broadband services. Here's a link to a podcast which provides a LOT of technical detail on why buffering happens and how to fix it. WARNING - this is *very* technical material.

      In short, the connection through your modem is subject to buffering and caching which will create latency and delays in streaming packets. This will affect audio and video traversing your modem, which will not happen when you stream audio/video around your house (it isn't being sourced from the internet). The two networks operate very differently.

      I hope this helps. I suggest a cup of cocoa and a good book while listening to the podcast - you may fall asleep as the participants achieved geek status many years ago. This they confess frequently, and I know them, so I feel able to say this in a public forum.

      --RobL.
    1. stonewall100's Avatar
      stonewall100 -
      Paul/Rob, I have discovered that Sky on Demand downloads a film or other items to the hard drive on my Sky Plus box and so buffering is not an issue and explains why the quality is so good. Lawrence
    1. RobL's Avatar
      RobL -
      Sky are using an interesting definition of "on demand", if that's your Sky Box default behaviour. Perhaps we should move this discussion to the public forum under "buffering"?
    1. stonewall100's Avatar
      stonewall100 -
      Well I suppose it is "on demand" because I look at a library of films and select the one I would like to view and it seems to download quite quickly. L
    1. stonewall100's Avatar
      stonewall100 -
      Quote Originally Posted by stonewall100 View Post
      Hi Rob,
      This has some interesting inconsistencies in terms of speed in relation to distance - my result v Miles' result is an example. There must be an ISP factor as well, and perhaps other factors. I see that SJ is getting a reasonably good speed from FTTC bearing in mind the distance from the cabinet (if it is the one on the common and presuming the cable follows the line of the road.)
      L
      Hi Rob, I have tracked down one of the inconsistencies. You have MAC B0487AFEE73A located near the Langton Exchange and with a really low download speed. This box is actually located in Stockland Green Road Speldhurst, which is then consistent with the speed recorded. Lawrence
    1. RobL's Avatar
      RobL -
      Quote Originally Posted by stonewall100 View Post
      Hi Rob, I have tracked down one of the inconsistencies. You have MAC B0487AFEE73A located near the Langton Exchange and with a really low download speed. This box is actually located in Stockland Green Road Speldhurst, which is then consistent with the speed recorded. Lawrence
      Fixed. If anyone else sees anything else, do get in touch. Ideally not by posting comments here, but in the forum itself.

      Thanks.