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Kevin
21-03-2013, 12:43 PM
While I was browsing the internet yesterday, I came across an article about an FTTP project in the Underriver area ;

http://www.ultrafastunderriver.co.uk/

Id not heard of this project before this week. It looks as though Gigaclear have had some success in delivering FTTP to other rural communities.

RobL
21-03-2013, 01:29 PM
While I was browsing the internet yesterday, I came across an article about an FTTP project in the Underriver area ;

http://www.ultrafastunderriver.co.uk/

I’d not heard of this project before this week. It looks as though Gigaclear have had some success in delivering FTTP to other rural communities.

I know about Gigaclear and have met with Matthew Hare the CEO at the INCA Seminar on March 6th. Gigaclear are VC funded, and commercially focused, and make no bones about it. they are all about money. The packages they offer are "competitive" against current market offerings from BT and Virgin, and perform generally better according to most of the blogs I've read. It isn't an particularly cheap service, starting at 37/month.

Contention ratios were also willingly discussed, which is novel. I'm not sure they are contractual, however.

I see substantially less benefit to the community going with a commercial provider. While it would be refreshing to replace BT, the revenue ends up outside the community.

I wonder what BT will do around Underriver with their BDUK project, now that Gigaclear have a foot in the door?

stonewall100
21-03-2013, 04:13 PM
It is interesting that they only required 190 expressions of interest http://underriver.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/2013%2001%2031%20Chronicle%20article%20re%20Open%2 0Day.pdf

That hardly seems enough to make it a commercial runner if it is only 37/month (about 7k a month gross income!)
L

RobL
21-03-2013, 04:27 PM
It is interesting that they only required 190 expressions of interest http://underriver.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/2013%2001%2031%20Chronicle%20article%20re%20Open%2 0Day.pdf

That hardly seems enough to make it a commercial runner if it is only 37/month (about 7k a month gross income!)
L

That's the problem with a commercial venture. You don't get to see or have a voice around the commercials.

RobL
27-03-2013, 09:09 AM
I spoke with Joe Frost (http://www.gigaclear.com/joe-frost-joins-gigaclear/) of Gigaclear at the CLA conference the other week and asked about the Gigaclear Underriver project. It is apparently a project underway, taking orders, but not yet started/delivered. ETA for the first service is October this year, assuming sufficient contractual signups are in place soon enough.

Let's take note of a few things - Gigaclear has a 100 install fee, with a further 95 being the average to have someone else do the digging for you on your own land. Around 30% of Gigaclear customers do "self dig" saving the additional 95ish. It's a very different, commercial model compared to a Community build like B4RN and B4RS. The technology is GREAT of course, but the pricing high, and the asset doesn't belong to the community.

Lawrence - you may be interested to see Peter Cowan repeating the behaviour we experienced when you asked him about Ashurst - here (http://54.228.246.170/blog/?p=516).

--RobL.

stonewall100
27-03-2013, 09:26 AM
Thanks Rob.
That is a very good record of meeting and Peter Cowan appears true to form by not responding to actions - I have still have heard nothing after my questions about Ashurst but it is only 6 months and he may need more time!
The Gigaclear approach is interesting and I would find the 95 dig charge acceptable and also the 100 install, and perhaps others in our community also might and so worth considering in your plan although cannot believe it would apply to some of the long runs in Ashurst and also wonder what happens when transiting neighbours who don't want the service themselves.
Lawrence